Then I tried CI. It was nice. All you need. But extending but was a bit of hazzle. ( Same problem as ror )

The I found Yii. It is so far the best framework I could find out there. It is fast, easy, close to ror. But not too close. And most important thing: Easy to extend. I wrote some extensions in it. In just a few minutes. ( After using it just a few weeks ) Another thing which is cool: It uses lazy loading everywhere! So unused components, extensions, models and so on are not loeded until they are needed.

A funny thing is: RoR is so easy, and has such a clean structure on classes and “how you do things”. That I sometimes still think in this “RoR” way, how to do things

http://www.yiiframework.com

i found your blog while searching for two step views with codeigniter and, while i was reading another post of yours (“zend framework – my three month review”) i noticed you too don’t like to do your validations on the controller. i wonder what work around on codeigniter you did to move your validations to the model?

would it be possible for you to share with us?

thanks and nice blog.

Though I spent a bit of time cursing ZF, i’ve come to appreciate it a lot more over time, especially when working on personal projects. ZF’s still has a long way to go but they seem to be on track in general.

IMO if you want to throw a basic system together, which has the generic functionality (DB,Auth, etc) i’d use Rails, if you need to fully customise the system (multi-tier, no DB, etc) ZF is a lot more flexible in this regard.

I’d love to create a decent Rails app one day, I just can’t justify doing so atm, ZF seems to deal with my requirements pretty damn nicely.